Prequel Trilogy,  The Phantom Menace

Prequel-basher Simon Pegg feels “awful” that Jar Jar actor Ahmed Best considered killing himself

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A few weeks ago, Jar Jar Binks actor Ahmed Best said he almost killed himself because of media backlash after the release of The Phantom Menace. Here’s the reaction of the actor, writer and long-time prequel basher Simon Pegg (source: NowThis).

“I feel so ashamed of the fact that there was actually a victim, a human victim in that. I think most people were regarding Jar Jar Binks like he was a real creature. And wailing on him for being annoying, or whatever, or not liking him. But there was a person behind that. And I read that and just thought: Christ, I’m one of those people. And it makes me feel awful.”

11 Comments

  • KirkMan1701

    Simon, you better SHOW ME that this apology is real before I even consider forgiving you since you have obsessively cried and carried on about the Star Wars prequel whenever it suited you! I still don’t trust this celebrity LEMtic after the many years of his trashing the SW prequel and all who enjoy them and he better be sorry for both vowing to disrespect all who enjoy the SW prequels and comparing George Lucas to a child killer in his 2015 Big Apple daily Blunder. I sure do hope he finally learns his lesson from this and that he will quit spewing anymore inexcusable vitriol about the SW prequels but given his long track-record since 1999, I kinda doubt it.

    Thew Peggster needs to do massive self-reflection and lots of it if he truly feels awful for Ahmed Best almost committing suicide. I am STILL boycotting all of this twat’s movies and TV shows especially since I hate his best friend J.J. Abrams to death for standing for lowbrow pew-pew action and the destruction of the intellectual/cerebral. Peggy, please go seek counseling from the strictest psychiatrist near you in order to crack down on your dangerous obsession against the Star Wars prequels if you truly feel sorry for almost costing Ahmed Best his life at his own hands. SW prequel bashers like this are truly PSYCHOPATHS and this prequel-bashing thing is quite sociopathic.

  • Cryogenic

    So a guy that WORKS in the entertainment industry, and has been loud and proud about his prequel hate for many years, only NOW realises this fundamental fact — that films are made by human beings and there are human beings that act, write, direct, and deliver them, and invest considerable time, talent, and energy in pulling them off?

    Following from that, Simon Pegg, like every other hectoring, braying, bullying busybody that’s ever helped themselves to bashing these movies and then come back for seconds, should also realize that films are a collaborative endeavour. There wasn’t just ONE human being behind Jar Jar. There were many: George Lucas, Terryl Whitlatch, Ahmed Best, John Knoll, and Rob Coleman, to name a few. Not to mention all the people that DID enjoy Jar Jar; including millions of young viewers and at least a few older ones sufficiently open-minded and not stuck in the groove of hatred and declamation.

    It’s good that he’s finally showing some contrition — but he feasted on the stuffed Christmas turkey of the prequels for years and has thrown more than his share of disdain and opprobrium out. Remember (as KirkMan1701 touched on above) how, after bitterly losing it because some Star Trek fans voted the then-new “Into Darkness” last in a poll, provoking him into a condescending response that culminated in him protesting that no-one deserved to be subjected to such “crass ****ing ire”, in 2013, he was still sticking a fork in the prequels and even tactlessly bashing people who liked them in 2015, just weeks before “The Force Awakens”, his buddy’s other “star”-franchise movie, came out? Let us reacquaint ourselves with his full comment:

    “I don’t really have any respect for anyone who thinks those films are good. They’re not. (They’re) a monumental misunderstanding of what the (original) three films are about. It’s an exercise in utter infanticide … (like) George Lucas killing his kid.”

    http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a773601/simon-pegg-compares-star-wars-prequels-to-infanticide-its-like-george-lucas-killing-his-kid/

    Infanticide. No respect.

    After that — Does anyone need Pegg’s respect?

    And the “Into Darkness” comments can be found here:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/simon-pegg-the-worlds-end_n_3787056

    That second link, if you’re still reading this and remotely interested, also contains another curious remark from Pegg:

    “I was so impassioned about “Star Wars” I was the most offended by its sort of portrayal of its own ideals. The very talents of Lucas’s creative process were thrown out. There’s footage of him talking about special effects were a tool to tell a story. And then he makes films where it’s just special effects. And I’ve been very outspoken about that. So I think for me to suddenly go running back to “Star Wars” would be an act of massive hypocrisy.”

    Yet… That is exactly what he did. Not long after his filmmaking friend, JJ Abrams, got put in the driver’s seat, Pegg performed a heroic “Mission Impossible” stunt and completely reversed his position, in a matter of months. Indeed, Pegg practically bragged in another interview that he didn’t just get a small role, but was an unofficial adviser on the Disney picture — a straight-arrow, OT-loving confidante who had the director’s ear.

    This is now the second little about-face/mea culpa that Pegg has performed in recent months. But neither really go far enough in acknowledging the vitriolic culture surrounding these films; or the part that Pegg gleefully played in adding to it and milking it for his own advantage. And by films, I mean the prequels. The video above predictably tries to make it seem like, “Okay, the hate is NOW out of control” — like it wasn’t already a big thing years before Disney ever got their mitts on Lucas’ creation.

    So, I guess this is progress… of a sort. But, from a certain point of view, it’s a bit too little, a bit too late.

    • KirkMan1701

      Simon Twat as you pointed out needs to apologize to many more people besides Ahmed best for his prequel-bashing escapades over the mast almost two decades, especially to George Lucas. I bet Peggy would vehemently defend his Nu-Trek co-star Chris Pine and his “Star Trek cannot be intellectual/cerebral in 2016/anymore” malarkey against loyal Star Trek fans at all costs. Simon cares less about preserving the intellectual/cerebral in sci-fi than he does about protecting that precious OT-aesthetics saturation of Star Wars at all costs just goes to show how misplaced his priorities truly are.

      Wil Wheaton also needs to apologize for telling people to deny children the right to watch and enjoy the Star Wars prequels too since kids watching those movies isn’t effecting him at all and what he said was both autocratic and hurtful. Rey from the sequel trilogy is my #1 all-timer most hated Star Wars character to date and oh no, “OT uber alles” reactionaries like Simon and Wil wouldn’t accept that yet they chose to violently attack Jar Jar Binks for way too many years.

      Me personally, I find myself rooting for the First Order in the sequel trilogy in response to that toxic nostalgia trilogy’s prequel-bashing/ignoring undertones. The sequel trilogy is the ONLY Star Wars in which I actually root for the villains because the “heroes”; the Resistance, are just toxic nostalgia icons in disguise. All other Star Wars films and TV shows (Episodes I-VI (both prequel and original trilogies), Rogue One, Solo, The Clone Wars, and Rebels), I root for the heroes at every turn.

      • Cryogenic

        @KirkMan1701:

        I don’t know if I’d call him “Simon Twat” — can’t we stick to “Simon Twerp” or “Simon Puke”? Otherwise, I agree with you, really, KirkMan.

        The cerebral water-level of Star Trek has risen and fallen a number of times. Aside from “The Motion Picture” (the only one Roddenberry had any serious involvement in; and the only one made by a big-name, well-respected director), it has generally been smarter on the small screen than the big, IMO. But thanks for reminding me of how Pegg declared that smart, grown-up entertainment isn’t really on the cards in Trek’s present reality anymore — I almost forgot about that remark!!! Ha!!! He’ll happily shill for a dumbed-down, mass-audience Star Trek movie franchise; yet sniff and thunder that Lucas lost touch with his own creation and somehow scotched his own values and destroyed Star Wars for ego and profit. Who the hell does he think he is? He’s a shallow, attention-seeking, double-platinum hypocrite.

        Wil Wheaton’s rancour is also unbelievable. The guy played the flippin’ Jar Jar Binks of the Star Trek universe — yet apparently learned nothing from all those years in the wilderness, suffering bile and fury and rude jokes left and right. Perversely, we can infer that’s also why he seems to lament Jar Jar and the prequels. He obviously wants to take the stink off himself and throw something “worse” under the bus, in a rather desperate attempt to become part of the in-group that shunned him to begin with. It’s both tragic and slightly hilarious. Someone always has to be “lower” on the pole than somebody else. “I may be X, but at least I’m not Y.” Because how terrible that would be…

        It’s almost like prequel fans are being encouraged to root for the First Order. It’s like Disney has cast prequel fans (loyal, hardcore, unyielding prequel fans) as the sequel trilogy’s main villains. Or we’re meant to see our dark reflection and revile it. Is it all a dare? I don’t know. But like you said: The heroes seem to be populated by fairly stock/coarse/empty/unedifying nostalgia icons. I think there is some growth to some of the characters; but it’s all very flattened and simplistic compared to what Lucas did in the PT. And the world is so small. Feels like a wasted opportunity and a moribund end to what could have been an amazing final chapter.

      • Cryogenic

        P.S. Thanks to Anthony (?) for approving my original response with the two “Pegg” links. I think a comment gets sent for moderation/approval if you provide more than one link at a time. So it’s not immediately visible.

        On that note, and not to make this follow-on look too spam-y, here are those remarks, KirkMan1701, you were referring to above:

        https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/may/19/simon-pegg-criticises-dumbing-down-of-cinema

        It’s easy to forget how ridiculous Pegg has made himself sound over the years. Two or three comments from the above really stand out:

        “They had a script for Star Trek that wasn’t really working for them. I think the studio was worried that it might have been a little bit too Star Trek-y,” he said of the original draft … People don’t see [Star Trek] being a fun, brightly coloured, Saturday night entertainment like the Avengers,” adding that the solution was to “make a western or a thriller or a heist movie, then populate that with Star Trek characters so it’s more inclusive to an audience that might be a little bit reticent.”

        And there’s this:

        “Now we’re essentially all consuming very childish things – comic books, superheroes. Adults are watching this stuff, and taking it seriously … It is a kind of dumbing down, in a way, because it’s taking our focus away from real-world issues. Films used to be about challenging, emotional journeys or moral questions that might make you walk away and re-evaluate how you felt about … whatever.”

        And finally, there’s this:

        “Sometimes [I] feel like I miss grown-up things,” he said. “And I honestly thought the other day that I’m gonna retire from geekdom … I’ve become the poster child for that generation, and it’s not necessarily something I particularly want to be. I’d quite like to go off and do some serious acting.”

        * * *

        Sorry if that’s too much “Pegg” — even for this thread!

        He sort of oscillates between showing intense geek obsession and insular cheerleading; then a more introspective, self-ware side is suddenly talking. But, at the end of the day, he created conditions in which watered-down, fast-paced, adrenalized enterainment is more likely than ever now; versus its trickier and riskier counterpart. First, by championing the OT; then, by refusing to champion the PT and actively kicking Lucas when he was already down (and spitting at fans of both franchises for their evidently disagreeable/horrible taste); and, finally, by (hypocritically) agreeing to help his “buddy” J.J. Abrams (and Paramount/Disney) crush down and simplify two entertainment giants in a row (and, again, spitting at fans of both franchises for daring to have a different opinion on the matter and for disagreeing with the Almighty Pegg and his buddy Abram’s commercial piloting/hijacking). That’s pretty sad, IMO.

        • KirkMan1701

          “Simon Puke” is my favorite of the two you suggested hence I will go with that so thanks for the suggestion since I love it. Simon Puke pays 100% LIP SERVICE to intellectual/cerebral sci-fi since as you pointed out, he created the conditions in which lowbrow fast-paced pew pew action junk flourishes while the highbrow deep and intellectual/cerebral suffers.

          I am rotting for the First Order in the sequel trilogy wholeheartedly as to stand my ground against this prequel-bashing toxic nostalgia that the “Resistance” terrorist gang “struggles” in impose on everyone else. There are many female main protagonists who are far better than the insufferable Rey since it is easy to come up with better female leads than Rey since it has been done on numerous occasions. The sequel trilogy is a small galaxy after-all when compared the the Lucas saga, Rogue One and Solo movies, and two computer animated Clone Wars and Rebels series. The only things that the sequel trilogy has going for it in size so far are bigger superweapons and “bad guy” ships along with just one big Mon Calamari Star Lemon as the “good guy” flagship.

          The Sequel trilogy is steeped in victim/persecution complex with em,bedded messages of playing “victim” on behalf of “poor persecuted” OT purists who are so “oppressed” by the big bad SW prequels. The sequel trilogy fails epically at seeing that the OT purists are the real oppressors/persecutors and that SW prequel fans are the real victims of the matter.

      • Cryogenic

        Yep. I can live with “Simon Puke”. 🙂

        And you’re right — He pays a sort of lip service to the better stuff, while having enabled some of the worst. A similar trick was pulled on the PR circuit for “The Force Awakens”. Let’s pay lip service to good story and characterisation and visual imagination, while actually pimping a product that has scant evidence of any of those things. More manipulative, rootsy/blood-n-soil/fascist, commercial BS.

        I think the values of the sequel trilogy are inverted; as, I think, you’re suggesting. Well, inverted and ultimately hollow, I suppose. Placeholder names, placeholder faces, placeholder conflicts — all copied and pasted from the Original Trilogy and the book of Social Justice. Just the sort of tactic a big corporation would use to secure the biggest return and insulate itself from criticism.

        I also found it perverse how the malign hatreds and peevish simplicities of PT bashers were openly incorporated into the design and marketing of the sequel movies — and then Disney/LFL are the first to turn around and try and paint critics of THEIR movies as bigoted, sexist, racist, alt-right supporters, etc. Would that also include George “The fans will really enjoy it” Lucas?

  • starvingwriterwithadayjob

    I find it ironic and dumb as hell that the people now bashing Peg for having a very genuine moment of enlightened awareness are most of the same people that bash what you don’t like in these movies 🤣 The prime word being MOVIE. As in they are just movies. Period. And I wish I could tell Ahmed that ending your life because of what someone thought of the animated character you were in a suit for is NEVER the answer. Never give Other people, especially strangers, that much control or power over your own life or who you are or how you see yourself or what you think your life is worth. Because how others treat you is a measure of THEIR worth, not your own. Then I want to give him a hug. And to all the fanboy idiots, agonizing over fantasy that isn’t nearly as detrimental and horrifying as our reality where the polar bears are dying into extinction and global warming is killing us all slowly, we are in the midst of an actual global plague, and there is civil war and racist brutality in the streets, I say enough already!! Give it a rest!! If you want to yell at someone for not making your Underoos damp during your little movie, than respectfully (RESPECTFULLY) voice and direct your opinion straight towards George Lucas, the writers and the directors. They’re the ones that handed you the traits you don’t like in the characters you don’t like, and the finished product you don’t like. Because they all got rich and richer while Mr. Best/Jar Jar and Ms. Tran/Rose and the like thought about jumping off bridges, were driven into hiding from social media, their work opportunities dwindled, and they struggled to find work to better their careers and feed their families; even struggling with their own self worth. But if your little weak fanboy hearts can’t do that, and the only force that lives in you is the one that reaches for another bag of chips while you spew venom anonymously from behind the soft glow of your computer screen while sitting in your underwear, and not the force of empathy, bravery and compassion, than just do everyone a favor: shut your mouth and go back to drooling over Leia from 1980 and have the decency to render your own self harmless. Because bullies are the real losers who have nothing worthwhile to contribute or say.

  • starvingwriterwithadayjob

    I find it ironic and dumb as hell that the people now bashing Peg for having a very genuine moment of enlightened awareness are most of the same people that bashed what they didn’t like in these movies 🤣 The prime word being MOVIES. As in they are just movies. NOT REALITY. Period. And I wish I could tell Ahmed that ending your life because of what someone thought of the animated character you were in a suit for is NEVER the answer. Never give Other people, especially strangers, that much control or power over your own life or who you are or how you see yourself or what you think your life is worth. Because how others treat you is a measure of THEIR worth, not your own. Then I want to give him a hug. And to all the fanboy idiots, agonizing over fantasy that isn’t nearly as detrimental and horrifying as our reality where the polar bears are dying into extinction and global warming is killing us all slowly, we are in the midst of an actual global plague, and there is civil war and racist brutality in the streets, I say enough already!! Give it a rest!! If you want to yell at someone for not making your Underoos damp during your little movie, than respectfully (RESPECTFULLY) voice and direct your opinion straight towards George Lucas, the writers and the directors. They’re the ones that handed you the traits you don’t like in the characters you don’t like, and the finished product you don’t like. Because they all got rich and richer while Mr. Best/Jar Jar and Ms. Tran/Rose and the like thought about jumping off bridges, were driven into hiding from social media, their work opportunities dwindled, and they struggled to find work to better their careers and feed their families; even struggling with their own self worth. But if your little weak fanboy hearts can’t do that, and the only force that lives in you is the one that reaches for another bag of chips while you spew venom anonymously from behind the soft glow of your computer screen while sitting in your underwear, and not the force of empathy, bravery and compassion, than just do everyone a favor: shut your mouth and go back to drooling over Leia from 1980 and have the decency to render your own self harmless. Because bullies are the real losers who have nothing worthwhile to contribute or say.

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