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      • Cryogenic

        @ Bob:

        Well, okay. But why call it *The* Mandalorian? It implies — along with the term in the description: “another warrior” — that this new guy is X; and Boba and Jango were Y. Also, in a galaxy teeming with trillions, including Jedi Knights, Sith Lords, the Knights of Ren, et al., it seems reasonable to imagine the appellation “warrior” would fit (in various ways) many classes of people; not just this Xeroxed-from-Lucas “lone gunslinger” spaghetti-westerner stereotype.

    • Alexrd

      George Lucas himself didn’t consider Jango and Boba to be Mandalorians. They merely wore salvaged Mandalorian armor. Mandalorians aren’t meant to be a bunch of lone gunmen, like they are trying to convey here.

      It’s pretty obvious that they are desperately and cheaply trying to capitalize on the EU interpretation of the Mandalorians, made even more evident by trying to associate Jango and Boba to them. Once again, they can’t respect and honor Lucas’ universe, characters and legacy.

      • Cryogenic

        @ Alex:

        Yep…

        Another galling over-simplification/over-condensing from them. Not only do they still struggle to come up with original ideas; but they can’t (and/or won’t) even present — let alone expand on — the earlier ones correctly.

      • Bob Jones

        Tbh I really like the idea that they are even if it is blasphemy to the mighty George… I loved all of the Jango comics and Bounty Hunter. It’s definitely my headcanon

    • gungifan13

      Um, if I may, gentlemen, technically, Dave DID say in a 2014 episode of RebelForce Radio that George considered Jango not Mandalorian as well as Boba, but, Dave also said that George suggested he would’ve been adopted into the Mandalorian culture. But, would they have a bloodline to Mandalore like Satine, Vizsla and Bo-Katan? No.

      However, what does complicate these matters is that the planet Jango is from, Concord Dawn, is in the Mandalore system and is official canon after being mentioned in George Lucas canon in the Clone Wars Episode, “The Box”, as Rako Hardeen’s homeworld, before showing it in Rebels, yet he’s not Mandalorian either, but has a helmet that was based on a rough draft for Boba’s helmet back in the 80’s for Empire Strikes Back. But, if I may offer an olive branch here, sir, I suggest that this show’s synopsis indicates it will be told from the perspective of a casual Mandalorian who believed Jango and Boba were Mandalorians, but, doesn’t yet know they aren’t Mandalorians and maybe tries to become a TRUE Mandalorian. To be fair, they don’t refer to Jango and Boba as Mandalorians in the synopsis, just “warriors”. I don’t mind this, I mean Filoni is involved with some epsiodes to make sure Favreau is likely aware of this. So, we’ll see. We still don’t know much of who this main character is, and we still have a long ways off, but, I’m still intrigued to learn more and I want this to do well so Incase Disney does succeed in getting Fox and they succeed in getting Hulu, via a bigger stake, we could see George Lucas’s Underworld show put on Hulu, since Disney says Hulu is where they’ll put edgier, darker R-rated content.

      Also, you’re not the only ones I see pointing out that Jango and Boba aren’t Mandos, Bryan Young of Full of Sith said the same on his Twitter.

      • Alexrd

        “Dave also said that George suggested he would’ve been adopted into the Mandalorian culture.”

        No, he did not say that. George never suggested any of that. It was Filoni speculating to ease the minds of the vocal EU fans at the time. He did it many times in interviews for the series. This was also heavily addressed back in 2009/2010, on an episode of the ForceCast (back when Jason and Jimmy Mac were doing it).

        “However, what does complicate these matters is that the planet Jango is from, Concord Dawn, is in the Mandalore system and is official canon after being mentioned in George Lucas canon”

        George never said where Jango came from.

      • gungifan13

        But, wasn’t it at least said at the time that Jango was from Concord Dawn? Or, is that still nebulous and remains unconfirmed by George?

        EDIT: Oh, wait, never mind. It said he once CLAIMED he was from Concord Dawn. Though, it was still never officially confirmed that he was, so, I guess it is nebulous.

      • Alexrd

        George Lucas never claimed such thing. Filoni never said he claimed it either. Filoni simply mentioned Jango was from Concord Dawn based on EU works at the time.

        Not the same thing at all.

        • gungifan13

          No no. I meant Jango claimed he was from Concord Dawn, per sources cited at his Wookieepedia canon page, not George or Filoni. Sorry for my miscommunication.

      • gungifan13

        Oh come on, Joe. First, u wanted to see GL’s edgy Star Wars: Underworld. Now, u don’t want to? Very disappointing to see you say that, since Star Wars 1313 would’ve been like that.

  • Cryogenic

    I love that last sentence. It reads like something from a story brainstorming session. A million ideas on a whiteboard: “We follow…” Such stirring word calculus.

    Furthermore: “Far from the authority of the New Republic.” Like TFA and the whole Sequel (Superfluous) Trilogy? Now I’m really excited!

    *yawn*

    • Alexrd

      Indeed.

      I didn’t even know the New Republic had any authority to begin with. How do they enforce that authority? With that small ‘Resistance’ group? Even the name doesn’t make sense. If the New Republic is supposed to be in charge, what exactly are they resisting? Their lack of internal (and external) logic is laughable…

      • Cryogenic

        Remember when PT bashers used to complain that the prequels were pointless anyway because “we already know where it’s headed”? I feel that way with regard to the New Republic being a toothless no-show in the Sequel Trilogy and symbolically erased from canon in TFA (when Starkiller Base destroys Coruscant Redux/SJW Hangout Prime). To paraphrase Carl Sagan’s “dragon in my garage” analogy: If the New Republic is never seen or heard and exerts no palpable effect on anything, shouldn’t we just conclude it isn’t there?

        Oh, but-but-but, comes the reply (and as you touched on): The Resistance! That’s its military arm. They have guns, and ships, and spies, and sympathisers, and droids, and everything (although not many of any of those things). And they’re resisting! Checkmate, Disney dissenters! But as you said: resisting what? And why are they so pathetically small and irrelevant? And how did the First Order get so comparatively large? Again, it’s like the conflict is just between those guys, and no galactic government formed at all.

        It’s obvious that Disney did not want to craft a universe with any real awkwardness, windiness, or complication to it — because everyone complained when George Lucas did it. So we get a flattened-out, nonsensical simulacrum of the Original Trilogy, seasoned with a dash of prequel (and a lash of Marvel) — with a hollow dressing of identity politics distracting everyone from the vacant inside and the real calamity: a sad lack of internal coherence and inner necessity; absent because $$$ became the highest priority.

        “Better dead here than dead in da core. Ye gads! What is mesa sayin?!”

      • Alexrd

        @ gungifan13:

        I wasn’t aware the imperial forces and the banks were in charge of things for them to be ‘resisting’ anything. Also, when was that ‘control’ ever established in the movies?

        • gungifan13

          NOT in the movies, in the Clone Wars, the Lost Missions season, when Palpatine tries to control the Banking Clan to get money for his Imperial machine and build the Death Star. I believe it’s in the Clovis arc.

      • Alexrd

        We are not talking about the PT or the OT. We are talking about the ST. 30 years after this alleged New Republic is established and in charge, they are fighting banks and Imperial remnants hidden beyond the Outer Rim? That’s not resisting. That’s pursuing. It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever.

      • gungifan13

        No no, I mean they’re resisting the remnants of the Empire that still have power because of the support of the banks. That’s why the Rebel Alliance isn’t as, rich, as the Empire is.

    • By Grapthar's Hammer

      “It’s obvious that Disney did not want to craft a universe with any real awkwardness, windiness, or complication to it — because everyone complained when George Lucas did it. So we get a flattened-out, nonsensical simulacrum of the Original Trilogy, seasoned with a dash of prequel (and a lash of Marvel) — with a hollow dressing of identity politics distracting everyone from the vacant inside and the real calamity: a sad lack of internal coherence and inner necessity; absent because $$$ became the highest priority.”

      I have to quote Cryogenic here. Because this absolutely sums up what Di$ney and LFL have done to SW. It both saddens and sickens me at the same time. Their films are over loaded with identity politics that it leaves no room for a story or even a coherent narrative that is supposed to carry these films along.

      These new films are just an OT greatest hits album with a modern remix to it. SOLO, now being the first SW film to lose money while being the most expensive one to make, speaks volumes. I don’t think IX will make any serious impact on the series. The staff at LFL have done a great job at alienating old school fans with their snarky remarks and low blow insults. They should know, especially being under the Di$ney Empire, that a Cardinal rule is,

      NEVER INSULT YOUR CONSUMER!

      IX will suffer because of this. SOLO bombed for many reasons. The merchandise can’t even be given away at this point. I never thought I would see a day where I see SW merch sitting and rotting on shelves! SW as a whole is in a very dark place right now…

  • gungifan13

    I wanna see this just to see more Clone Wars characters make the live-action jump like Bo-Katan. I’m excited for this show and the return of the Clone Wars, no matter who tries to tell me otherwise. And, with Clone award having the final arc be the Siege of Mandalore and this series being about Mandalore post-Episode VI, could 2019 be the year of Mandalorians that could suggest their home planet and people play a part in Episode IX? Maybe. Maybe not. But, Hey, I’ll take what I can get rather than complain like most seem to do about Star Wars, these days.

    • joe

      in response to earlier i never said anything about looking forward to underworld and 1313 and i’ll say it again star wars is not an r-rated franchise lucas intended it to be for younger viewers like it or not it’s always been that way yes there’s a lot of dark stuff but we don’t need blood and gore in star wars

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